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  • automeister
    Bunker Buster
    • Aug 2021
    • 480

    #1

    Auto Nelson Options

    So I want an auto Nelson setup for the collection. Specifically one of the conversion kits that was made. I think about four variations were made. Are these kits generally usable on any nelson valve marker from the period? I am willing to buy just a kit or the whole marker together. If I end up with just a kit I would need to find a compatible marker. Any tips, suggestions etc? Yes I am aware they were not the greatest kits!
  • Ecapnation
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 4210
    • South Central Long Island

    #2
    Wgp nelson conversion kit and tracer chameleon kit.

    Then production... Lapco auto-spirit, auto tracer which was a rebranded chameleon and the very rare palmer tornado

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    • automeister
      Bunker Buster
      • Aug 2021
      • 480

      #3
      As far as the Wgp nelson conversion kit, and tracer chameleon kit, and auto tracer kit were these compatible with tracers and rangers only? I do not see why they would not work on most any Nelson of the time.

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      • Ecapnation
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 4210
        • South Central Long Island

        #4
        Originally posted by automeister
        As far as the Wgp nelson conversion kit, and tracer chameleon kit, and auto tracer kit were these compatible with tracers and rangers only? I do not see why they would not work on most any Nelson of the time.
        The wgp kit is a little more universal. While the chameleon/auto tracer is intended for for the tracer.

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        • automeister
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          What is a fair price on any of those three kits?
      • Hp_lovecraft
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 367

        #5
        And the Rebline Trojan. It uses a 1-way ram, spring return... specifically rubber bands. I can remember a few guys buying the trojans back around 1991 and they just never worked consistently.
        There was going to be a Trojan v2, but it was never released. Similar to the original, but with a 2-way ram. A member here bought up cases of V2 prototypes maybe 20 years ago, with the intention of selling working versions, but I don't remember what became of that.

        Sterlings are not technically nelson, but I remember a few autococking kits back in the day for them as well. The original Soverign prototype was basically a Sterling with an autococker kit, but it was dumped in favor of the sheridan valve-train when released to market. Chauncey made an Imp kit for the Sterling (converting it to blowback), but it never worked right, and wasnt releasd.

        The ATS AT85/TS1 is a Nelson valvetrain, with an autococking system. I've often wondered how hard it would be to replicate the system.

        and what was that kit that converted a nelson into a blowforward? I can't think of the name, but I remember the picture. You replaced the rear ASA with a giant valve thing.

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        • automeister
          automeister commented
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          Thanks for this info! I appreciate it! They were really trying back then. What do you think the price is on some off these kits are?
      • DocsMachine
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 2700
        • Alaska

        #6
        and what was that kit that converted a nelson into a blowforward? I can't think of the name, but I remember the picture. You replaced the rear ASA with a giant valve thing.
        -Are you thinking the probably-only-shown-once Line SI ad, that showed something like a miniature Automag valve (years before the 'Mag came out) that was supposed to be a "drop-in true semiauto conversion" for a Bushmaster pump?

        I've always wanted to know what sort of tech was going on inside that thing... assuming it wasn't just a mock-up for some reason.

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        • Ecapnation
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          Scorpion autoloader was it?
      • RuleOfSines
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 906
        • Massassassachusetts

        #7
        https://www.peculiarpaintball.com/ma...on-autoloader/

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        • automeister
          automeister commented
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          Have you ever shot that thing?

        • RuleOfSines
          RuleOfSines commented
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          Yes, its not very pleasant. The geometry of the trigger and sear assembly makes the trigger feel pretty bad.
      • The Great Equalizer
        Member since '09-ish
        • May 2021
        • 133
        • Vermont

        #8
        If you are going for a complete collection the Tagline /ATS guns are also auto-nelsons https://paintmagazine.com/paintball-...ine-ts-1-at85/

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        • XEMON
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          lets add the Vector to the list too 👍
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