Playing again after 8 years -> is development done?

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  • Tinybear
    Old timer
    • Feb 2021
    • 423
    • South West Ontario Canada.

    #31
    I for one think there will always be room for improvement.

    Perhaps elimination of an air source as the propellant all togeather.

    There’s CERTAINLY room for MASSIVE improvement on trigger feel. Spend any time behind a real steel firearm with a GOOD Trigger and even the best paintball triggers feel like utter crap.

    and as mentioned the paintball itself is overdue for some attentions be it improve quality/unifomity and increased size or perhaps improved materials and better shelf life’s ect.
    AGD 68 Automag, AGD ULE 68 Automag, Azodin Kaos Pump II, PE EMEK pal, Tippmann SL68II gen2, Umarex TR50.

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    • markdem
      G'day mate 🇦🇺
      • Nov 2022
      • 400
      • Rhode Island

      #32
      Perhaps we will see manufacturers produce some quirky offshoots since there isnt much point in further developing spool guns?

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      • Ecapnation
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        Nova but they are terrible at it
    • The Inflicted
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      • Jul 2020
      • 1510

      #33
      Originally posted by cockerpunk

      so answer my question ... what problem is it solving? what problem is around the corner?

      we already had the shoebox compressor, i still have one lol
      Length, for one.
      The Gamma Core platform is nice and light, and low, but also really stretched out with the feedneck placed well forward.
      I would like to see a gun of its general quality that puts the feedneck over the trigger finger, like a 'Mag or 'Cocker did.

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      • Trbo323
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 6358
        • Vancouver WA

        #34


        Originally posted by gabe
        It occurred to me watching the autococker groups, pump groups etc that most paintballers now are old school ballers that are returning to the sport for the nostalgia of it. I know I for one mainly play nowadays to scratch the itch of reliving the fun of my youth and even being able to own the guns I couldn't when I was a kid.
        I mean on one hand I wouldn't expect to see new players in those groups but also this is exactly what I've been saying for the last two ish years. Paintball is largely ignoring new players getting into the sport. Beyond maybe government regulation that's one of the fastest ways to kill a sport/hobby

        To make a comparison, have you guys ever looked for a slot car racing facility near you? No? Go try. Chances are you didn't find one or if you did you found one and not a second anywhere close. In the 90s and early 2000s they were much more popular but then video games took over and no more kids got into the hobby. Now it's just a bunch of retired guys hanging on.

        If you stop pulling people into your sport the current generation is the last generation that will play it

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        • Bigtuana
          Elusive Dragonslayer
          • Aug 2020
          • 67
          • Lahaina, Maui, HI

          #35
          I have a dream: 3D printed, seamless paintballs, +/- .005" tolerance, one can print at home.

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          • markdem
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            Ooooh thats a good idea!
        • Slangwhanger
          MCB Member
          • Mar 2022
          • 47
          • Seattle

          #36
          Originally posted by Cunha

          The virtue hoppers wouldn't hold up in high bps play because they are slow. Same with a pinokio.
          You can't be serious with saying that. Pinokios aren't slow, bro tater chip.
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          • Chuck E Ducky
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            lol If 29bps isn’t fast enough you could always take an LTR Xmod the motor get some madfed hard shell paint and turn the torque up to 11.
        • the_matrix_guy
          What the hæææl
          • Oct 2020
          • 1675
          • FL

          #37
          Originally posted by gabe
          This may be a hot take but bear with me: do we actually need/want more progress or development in paintball? It occurred to me watching the autococker groups, pump groups etc that most paintballers now are old school ballers that are returning to the sport for the nostalgia of it. I know I for one mainly play nowadays to scratch the itch of reliving the fun of my youth and even being able to own the guns I couldn't when I was a kid.

          Seems like when I go to the field it's largely old heads as well with a very few younger players tossed in. The newer players come and go but the anchor of the industry seems to be guys in their 30/40s that grew up playing in the golden years of paintball. They only buy the newer guns for the times they get tired of teching old 'cockers or angels.

          So is the industry really driven by innovation now or are we just coming out with new JT goggles and mechs for us old guys?
          I know a lot of new kids or gen z are buying all kinds of vintage paintball stuff, including markers, because of the cool factor. I love this

          The industry became soulless. For me personally, give me an overengineered, impractical marker any day! I live by the clickity clack, you’ll know by the beautiful sound.

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          • Chuck E Ducky
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            My Gen Alpha’s are rocking CCM pumps with the old heads. 😈 rase em right..

          • the_matrix_guy
            the_matrix_guy commented
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            @Chuck E Ducky

            Lol indeed

          • gabe
            gabe commented
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            Yeah I see that a lot too. Tons of questions from new players whenever I have the autocockers out. I could definitely see the industry turning more to vintage style guns. You're familiar with shooting sports and we see the retro craze over there too.
        • the_matrix_guy
          What the hæææl
          • Oct 2020
          • 1675
          • FL

          #38
          SignOfZeta

          There is uniformity and a body of regulation around the paintball: It’s 68 cal, (I’m using “68 cal” very loosely here given the horrid PB quality control), and it can’t travel past 300 FPS, and the marker cannot fire them faster than 10.5 BPS.

          In baseball you actually have different bats, gloves, etc.

          source: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/...fda2ed6523e2c0
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          • Tarsun2
            Certified Post Whore
            • Jul 2020
            • 1015

            #39
            there is always room for improvement.
            look at the Veritasium "micromouse" robotic mouse maze races. people were convinced the mice were as fast as they could possibly be; then they added a fan... High Jumping was similar and so was group B rally racing (before/after AWD).

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            • PBGunny
              Seasoned Shooter
              • Aug 2021
              • 166
              • Northern IN

              #40
              Originally posted by SignOfZeta
              You don’t see companies reinventing the baseball bat or the basketball every year to “grow the sport” because in fact it would do the opposite.
              You really need to go over to ESPN The Ocho and watch for a while.
              A few weeks ago, we were eating in a bar and one of the shows had these guys playing a game that combined basketball and wrestling.
              Very entertaining.
              Also saw these guys beating each other with pillows a few weeks before.

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