New push propel mechanical marker distributed by empire

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  • timetopat
    Rockin and Cockin
    • Jan 2025
    • 50

    #1

    New push propel mechanical marker distributed by empire

    https://shop.gisportz.com/products/p...intball-marker

    This was just recently listed on their site as well as some retailers like ans gears. Its a mechanical marker for 650 USD.
  • Psycho91
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 1248
    • Lexington, SC

    #2
    Everyone trying to compete with the emek

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    • William the Third
      William the Third commented
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      For the price, the Emek is unbeatable.
  • William the Third
    I do cocaine!
    • Jul 2020
    • 1099
    • WNC

    #3
    Now mine isn't so rare anymore. Anyway, it's not a bad marker, shoots nice and smooth, has a nice trigger, is ok-ish on efficiency.. Basically a mech Machine Vapor, and is just a rebadged/private label Flowtech R-Mac (all Mike Spurlock ventures, and if you don't know Mike, he's got a pretty bad reputation in the paintball world).
    I can haz feedback?
    If I owe you feedback, just remind me, as I sometimes forget.

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    • Ecapnation
      Ecapnation commented
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      Flow tech R Mac must be the second most terrible sounding name for a gun.... Besides Asco Mander

    • William the Third
      William the Third commented
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      Asco Mander... wasn't that just a rebadged/private label Anal Intruder?
  • Jordan
    I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
    • Jul 2020
    • 3476
    • Southern Ontario, Canada

    #4
    Originally posted by Psycho91
    Everyone trying to compete with the emek
    I suspect companies are hoping to get some of that sweet sweet market share that the Emek currently dominates.
    And God turned to Gabriel and said: “I shall create a land called Canada of outstanding natural beauty, with majestic mountains soaring with eagles, sparkling lakes abundant with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, and rivers stocked with salmon. I shall make the land rich in oil so the inhabitants prosper and call them Canadians, and they shall be praised as the friendliest of all people.”

    “But Lord,” asked Gabriel, “Is this not too generous to these Canadians?”

    And God replied, “Just wait and see the neighbors I shall inflict upon them."

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    • Heavy_D
      SpaceCadet
      • Jun 2024
      • 329
      • Alberta, Canada

      #5
      Can a company make a modern marker that doesn't look identical to everything else.....
      -Team Silver Creek United-

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      • William the Third
        William the Third commented
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        It's kind of like modern cars. They all end up looking pretty similar in the end.

      • Cyberpyr8
        Cyberpyr8 commented
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        Nova has kind of done that. If the N3 was so temperamental/touchy I would own a few of those. They are light and shoot so easy and fast. But the Emek is so much simpler to operate and adjust, I can't justify buying a Nova. This Push is interesting but I don't see it replacing my ID Emeks anytime soon.
    • BigBalla23
      Bunker Buster
      • Apr 2021
      • 108

      #6
      I just don't see what this does at 650 that an emek with hair valve or etha 3m doesn't do for meaningfully less money. Maybe I'm the idiot.

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      • William the Third
        William the Third commented
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        It's like a CS3/R5 vs a Mini/Axe. Other than style/ergonomics, the Mini/Axe do everything the CS3/R5 do, just as well, and for a lot less.
    • iamthelazerviking
      Make Paintballs 690 Again
      • Jul 2020
      • 2710
      • Staunton, VA

      #7
      Funny to see these around still
      Feedback 3.0

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      • Chuck E Ducky
        Ragnastock Enforcer
        • Jul 2020
        • 6116
        • NY

        #8
        Spurlock enough said. That guy just needs to go away already.

        He put the Vapor in Vaporware and wants a piece of PE market share lol. Back in the day they were literally given teams full setup just to shoot there garage and still couldn’t get anyone. All while ghosting actual customers who purchased their products. Dude is a clown.

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        • timetopat
          timetopat commented
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          I am not familiar with the guy to be honest. When was he in business? So he offered no support to people who bought his products while chasing teams to advertise? From googling around i see on reddit he has been this way for a while and took the dye eye pipe?

        • Chuck E Ducky
          Chuck E Ducky commented
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          Yup it’s not the first time he has left customers holding the bag to. I don’t get why he keeps coming back. Dude is super scummy. They use his name like a badge of honor in advertising I don’t get it. Guy is a total tool.

        • timetopat
          timetopat commented
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          You know Chuck E Ducky that does in fact not sound like a badge of honor. How long has this guy been pulling this? I like the idea of nice mech markers making a comeback but even besides the person's infamy i feel this lacks a gimmick to get me excited. Nova's stuff looks temperamental and has QC but at least the N3 looks different and is kind of funky while also being 150 less. This looks very standard and lacks a cool factor in my opinion for something its price. The PE ones are even cheaper and are battle proven already.
      • zinger565
        Bang Head Here
        • Apr 2022
        • 945
        • Wisconsin

        #9
        For those curious in the inner workings...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcB4udoaEeQ
        MCB Feedback

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        • Ecapnation
          Ecapnation commented
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          Why the plastic breach though?!
      • latches109
        Always Sciencing
        • Jul 2020
        • 2111

        #10
        Originally posted by Chuck E Ducky
        Spurlock enough said. That guy just needs to go away already.

        He put the Vapor in Vaporware and wants a piece of PE market share lol. Back in the day they were literally given teams full setup just to shoot there garage and still couldn’t get anyone. All while ghosting actual customers who purchased their products. Dude is a clown.
        timetopat Push is owned by Bryon Benini who worked at Dye for a long time. He is OG as it gets. The similarities to Dye stuff isn’t surprising, he may have even designed it. Let’s hope Bryon bought the intellectual property and the other guy is not involved - does anyone know if that is true?

        https://youtu.be/N_MOTW0d6Uo?si=yjFYRJ0_Hs6upgll

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        • Chuck E Ducky
          Chuck E Ducky commented
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          Push makes some nice gear. Im sure they are just putting their name on the thing. Spurlock must spin a good web of BS to sucker these investors.

        • MrBarraclough
          MrBarraclough commented
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          Push is just involved in the marketing and distribution, not design. But also, Empire/GI is distributing this for Push for some reason. It seems like a weirdly complicated setup.
      • Trbo323
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 6358
        • Vancouver WA

        #11
        Originally posted by latches109

        timetopat Push is owned by Bryon Benini who worked at Dye for a long time. He is OG as it gets. The similarities to Dye stuff isn't surprising, he may have even designed it. Let's hope Bryon bought the intellectual property and the other guy is not involved - does anyone know if that is true?

        https://youtu.be/N_MOTW0d6Uo?si=yjFYRJ0_Hs6upgll
        I can comment on this. I talked to Byron in person at Oregon supergame a handful of years ago when he was just starting push. He said he was on the design team for the dye i5 but was disappointed with a lot of the choices dye was making on the mask so after the design was done but before dye released the mask he left to start push and design a mask that was better.

        I've owned both masks and he was absolutely right. The i5 I think is a step backwards from the i4. I sold my i5 and still have my i4 but it's a backup as my main mask is a push unite.

        I appreciated chatting with Byron, he was a stand up guy, very upfront about his products.

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        • Trbo323
          MCB Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 6358
          • Vancouver WA

          #12
          Originally posted by BigBalla23
          I just don't see what this does at 650 that an emek with hair valve or etha 3m doesn't do for meaningfully less money. Maybe I'm the idiot.
          Be made of metal?

          Some people like anodizing, and style. call me crazy

          Functionally no you are right, they both go pew pew but if that's the argument then I have to add that a brass eagle avenger at $40 can also do that.

          There's more to paintball than pricetags, this was clearly not designed for the entry level market

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          • nerdcore
            Sweet Liberty, my arm!
            • Jul 2020
            • 512
            • Crashville

            #13
            Well. Priced the same as the mech Shocker, which is fitting since they mirror each other, aesthetically. And both are priced higher than what I'd want to pay for a mech. Cool.

            Also, TIL that Nova has way more mechs than when I bought an N3. One of them is a cocker? AND they released a pump? I thought Nova was their SIDE hussle!

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            • Trbo323
              MCB Member
              • Jul 2020
              • 6358
              • Vancouver WA

              #14


              Originally posted by nerdcore
              AND they released a pump? I thought Nova was their SIDE hussle!
              ... That pump does both pump and semi... You switch it on the field.

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            • cheapguitarscheapthrills
              aka Gabe Tex
              • Mar 2024
              • 467
              • Worcester county MA

              #15
              I don't think it's gonna sell well. Outclassed by cheaper markers and just some awkward design choices. If Empire (same parent company?) was smart they would have updated the Vanquish for release, then maybe a mech frame for that down the line.
              Last edited by cheapguitarscheapthrills; 04-22-2025, 06:00 PM.

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