New paint company: Ryvl

[nak81783]

Not sure if it’s correct, but Google says the patent was set to expire in 2029 but expired in 2022 due to lapse of maintenance fees.

The bad welts I’ve seen are from morons chrono’ing with paintballs and then shooting FSR, usually a 30+ fps difference.

I will concede that if the shell breaks a certain way on bare skin, it is more likely to cut the skin.

Beyond that, it’s just perception because FSR retain velocity/energy better. An FSR at X yards hits the same as a paintball at point blank range. This could be combatted by lowering field velocities, but then the reticle on my Supremacy scope is no longer calibrated.

Yeah, the plastics thing still bugs me, despite my last post.

Good point on the ultra round balls. I forgot they were powder only, but they could be paint, like an FSR.

[William the Third]

Perfect Circle Paintball

[TF_Aloha]

Not sure if it’s correct, but Google says the patent was set to expire in 2029 but expired in 2022 due to lapse of maintenance fees.

It's been reinstated. https://patents.google.com/patent/US20120199034A1/en

Current expiration date is 2029-06-03

The owner seems to have let it briefly expire a couple of times. I suspect that the owner just gets checks from Renatus periodically and only remembers that the patent exists when someone from Renatus calls them in a panic.

[SignOfZeta]

The reason we get crappy paint is because, to be frank, we don't want to pay for the good stuff.

Yeah, that "we" is players in general. Sure, MCB wants big, round paint, but the average player- the bread-and-butter of any field- wants cheap. Cheap first, cheap second, and quality just has to be "doesn't blow up in the gun".

These guys could produce the best paint in the world, but if it's so much as a penny a ball more than "just okay" paint, they'll be lucky to still be in the biz in a year.

And yeah, the market is so tight, I'll guarantee you they're going to run into exclusive contracts- the dealer can only carry X paint, this field can only sell Y paint, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I hope like hell the group succeeds. But there's market realities out there that are stacking the deck against him.

Doc.

I don’t feel this way at all. Users don’t get a choice to spend money or cheap out. Users don’t pick the paint, good or bad, cheap or expensive. They get no choice and therefore deserve no blame.

“Field paint only” is the rule at nearly every game at nearly every field. The field enforces cheap paint. The fields paint policy is to blame. When you have no choice you have no competition and you get garbage. Most fields wouldn’t have this policy if it weren’t for contracts with sleazy companies like GI Sportz or whatever they are called now.

What I don’t get is…why can’t I just pay for the junk paint, tell them to keep it, and use my own? Why can’t they at least build a clause like that into their scheme? There’s even more money in it for them than there would be if I actually touched the stuff.