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  • Trbo323
    MCB Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 6358
    • Vancouver WA

    #16
    So how is this different than an emek at this point? Besides some metal components over plastic

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    • Siress
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      shhhhh
  • Siress
    SāŒ€.650" x 3.5g; F1979-17
    • Jul 2020
    • 1318
    • Central MA

    #17
    Still need to sketch in the magazine - and probably some picatinny rail. I took a shot at it. Probably went overborad with the camo though. Just a concept. /s
    For what it's worth, I would absolutely already have one of these if it wasn't for all of the milsim stuff so I support the desire to have a slimmed down version.
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    • Trbo323
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 6358
      • Vancouver WA

      #18
      Originally posted by Siress
      Still need to sketch in the magazine - and probably some picatinny rail. I took a shot at it. Probably went overborad with the camo though. Just a concept. /s
      For what it's worth, I would absolutely already have one of these if it wasn't for all of the milsim stuff so I support the desire to have a slimmed down version.
      Wow that's some really good rendering! It's amazing that nobody has thought of this idea before. We must be some ignorant dopes!

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      • latches109
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        he is so triggered lol, good thing he can't read comments
    • Price
      Best in the game
      • May 2023
      • 64

      #19
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      • Trbo323
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 6358
        • Vancouver WA

        #20
        Price you are designing a marker that already exists.

        That's patent infringement, not swag

        Want swag? Go build something, anything. Use parts that were never intended to work together. The community you are talking to is among the best of the best paintball builders and tinkerers out there. Pretty much any one of us could easily step into an airsmith roll at any paintball shop and be just fine.

        This community takes markers that are meant to function one way, completely turns that on it's head and makes the marker function anyway and that's as a "for fun" side project. I have most of the parts I need to try and build a mechanical slg, why? Was curious if it would work.

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        • Price
          Price commented
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          The more a design 'piss you off' the more I know its good. This breach use parts off the shelf and its and original invisible design no infrigment. Rater the perfect loophole..
      • William the Third
        I do cocaine!
        • Jul 2020
        • 1099
        • WNC

        #21
        I can haz feedback?
        If I owe you feedback, just remind me, as I sometimes forget.

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        • Price
          Best in the game
          • May 2023
          • 64

          #22
          Superposed on the Tenex. One thing with this configuration is you see the magwell connect to the asa. The Zeta mag being able to store co2 12g could allow air to be also magfilled like an airsoft

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          Using a system like this

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          from the website

          ....' it is commonly known that you should not use CO2 to power an HPA engine since if liquid CO2 gets down-stream of the regulator it can cause a spike in pressure which is unsafe and can damage the sensitive components of the engine. So how is it that we're making something like this? Our CO2 inserts are specifically designed to allow you to safety run your HPA engine off of CO2. These inserts feature an integral expansion chamber, anti-siphon system, 5 micron filter and check valve to prevent liquid CO2 from entering the regulator regardless of the rifle's or air rig's orientation. As an added benefit, the internal check valve also prevents gases from escaping the expansion chamber ..'
          Last edited by Price; 04-17-2024, 07:44 AM.

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          • Trbo323
            MCB Member
            • Jul 2020
            • 6358
            • Vancouver WA

            #23
            Price you still haven't answered my question of how this is different than an emek platform or more specifically the emf. You are designing a marker that people can already buy off the shelf.

            So far the only real difference is you basically want to use a barrel kit as the breech, which I'm sorry to tell you, is not going to work out like you probably think it will

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            • Price
              Price commented
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              heres how I see it,

              The club breach body is square and slick detents (mill dream)
              Inch shorter (compact) etha1 form factor better in my opinion
              Frame available on market (eclipse loophole) (aluminum)
              Zeta mags (form factor)
              Less expensive (fun)

              By attaching a 3m valve to a 180r aluminum frame you remove limitations and allow endless customization just like the autococker saga, this fact alone I think deserve attention
          • Price
            Best in the game
            • May 2023
            • 64

            #24
            Originally posted by Trbo323
            Price you basically want to use a barrel kit as the breech, which I'm sorry to tell you, is not going to work out like you probably think it will
            Sure but not a problem. Fired..

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            • Fossilhead
              MCB Member
              • Jul 2020
              • 320
              • Utah

              #25
              If you find a way to legally make an aluminum emek frame, that'd be cool.

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              • Trbo323
                MCB Member
                • Jul 2020
                • 6358
                • Vancouver WA

                #26
                Originally posted by Price

                Sure but not a problem. Fired..

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                You missed why I said that barrel kit idea isn't going to work. Yes, you can chop the barrel kit up and screw it into the gamma core(there's a lot of assumptions about that but I'm ignoring those for now) chopping and threading is pretty much child's play around here. But you made 2 new problems that it doesn't look like you have a solution for or didn't realize are problems

                1) changing the breach size with the barrel kit will cause the bolt to have a different amount of friction in the breach. In a worst case scenario, which I think is entirely possible with today's small paint, too much friction and the marker doesn't fire. More likely I think is the change in friction will affect dwell timing and therefore velocity and likely show up as a very inconsistent

                2) paint needs to get into that breach, but since you are screwing the barrel kit into the gamma core I'm assuming you are cutting a hole in the barrel kit to allow passage, you haven't mentioned any way to clock that opening. You could potentially run a set screw through the side but then you are adding the alignment front to back of that hole because you are screwing it on or off the gamma core to make it align rotationally.

                To me, it seems you are actually ignorant of how ignorant you are, which is why you are ignoring everyone who could actually help you. People have raised good points about problems but your only response is word salad motivational poster guy. That's the kind of stuff that got Billy McFarland put in jail for fraud. Ignoring reality when people say there's a problem.

                Again I have to say, please, go try to build, pretty much anything. Put a dye frame on a spyder. Mag feed a 98. The experience will teach you more than any amount of words any of us write

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                • Price
                  Price commented
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                  How about We make this work, thats reverse uno on you to find solutions to the problems you find and ill help šŸ˜Ž
              • k_obeastly
                Bunker Buster
                • Aug 2020
                • 449

                #27
                this thread would have been far more fun on PBnation 15 years ago.

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                • Olsson
                  The Swedish Chef
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 668
                  • Gothenburg, Sweden

                  #28
                  Originally posted by Trbo323
                  To me, it seems you are actually ignorant of how ignorant you are, which is why you are ignoring everyone who could actually help you.
                  I believe Justin Kruger and David Dunning did have some thoughts on that matter. Although, if one is confident enough, one can surely dismiss their train of tought entirely.
                  Got Bork?

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                  • Trbo323
                    MCB Member
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 6358
                    • Vancouver WA

                    #29
                    Originally posted by Olsson

                    I believe Justin Kruger and David Dunning did have some thoughts on that matter. Although, if one is confident enough, one can surely dismiss their train of tought entirely.
                    Yeah that actually came to mind

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                    • netsurferdude2
                      MCB Member
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 879
                      • North of Bawlmer

                      #30
                      I think we are all just perturbed that Price isn't willing to share his Ambien prescription.

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