okay hive mind - what paintball gun is this?

[Chuck E Ducky]

Looking at it closer it's not a Badger. But it could be Daystate Sam Patriot basically a well-made Monteel clone, with wood furniture likely shotgun foregrip and some wooden Ar style grip to jazz it up.

Thats my final answer Regis Philbin.

[DocsMachine]

Feedneck is too far back for a Montneel design/clone.

Doc.

[DocsMachine]

I'll throw another bit at you: Look at that second photo, and tell me that, if the scale was just a little different, that wouldn't look like a double barrel.

(It's not, and I'm definitely not trying to convince anyone it is... But it you look at it just right... )

Doc.

[BigRed]

Here's what I think it is...

https://paintmagazine.com/paintball-history/australian-huntsman-redback-paintball-markers/

[Ecapnation]

An auto Kingman hammer 2....weird

[BigRed]

An Australian icon had to be using an Ausie PB gun!

[BigRed]

I guess this picture is Racoon mask dude letting white windbreaker jacket dude shoot his one of a kind semi! The air is all running to racoon dudes pack.

[bored383]

thank you all for helping solve this mystery!

[Number six]

I agree with the Hammer II assessment, but that is not a Kingman frame, plus the semi-auto feature. It's a franken, and it's awesome!

[mikew]

This article tells the story of how this marker appeared in publicity shots for the movie Streetfighter which was filmed in Australia.

[Chappy]

So if the first Spyder was released in 95 and SF was released in 94, I think that kyboshes the idea that thiamin’s just a semi auto hammer Ii, doesn’t it? I mean the hammer 2 came out in what, 97? Doesn’t add up, I don’t think this is hammer ii base unless he also had a delorian.
Wasnt the hammer ii a sterling copy? If the huntsman isn’t truly a custom piece then wouldn’t a sterling make more sense them a hammer ii?

[flyweightnate]

So if the first Spyder was released in 95 and SF was released in 94, I think that kyboshes the idea that thiamin’s just a semi auto hammer Ii, doesn’t it? I mean the hammer 2 came out in what, 97? Doesn’t add up, I don’t think this is hammer ii base unless he also had a delorian.
Wasnt the hammer ii a sterling copy? If the huntsman isn’t truly a custom piece then wouldn’t a sterling make more sense them a hammer ii?

The feedneck position clearly makes it more Hammer II than Sterling, though.

I'm certainly no expert on timelines - I first played in 99 or 2000 IIRC - but if you're correct on the chicken-or-egg question, is it possible Kingman borrowed the design from Australia and ditched the pneus?

Edit: one of the above Australian ads is marketing for a big game in 94, plus advertising for the Hammer II. So I guess they were available by then, too be modified into the Huntsman.

[Chappy]

Yeah that’s interesting. I was always under the impression the spyder was king man’s 1st offering in 95 and the pumps came later but I guess that is incorrect

[flyweightnate]

Honestly, I had no idea they were in the game that early, either. I was shooting an SL68 rental until I bought my first, which, ironically enough, was a Spyder (compact 2k though). I bet scottieb could tell us what year the old choker screw bodies were made, and we can go from there.

[scottieb]

flyweightnate I first saw an article in print for the Spyder late December 1994. I don't know if they were yet released to the public at that time. Mine was purchased the first week of February 1995.

[pghp8ntballer]

So where is it now and do any other examples exist?

[scottieb]

It certainly looks a Hammer II body. Now remember, the Hammer II was intended to compete with the Sterling. There was, for a short time, a semi conversion kit for the Sterling. I remember it being advertised in Smart Parts ads. Here's a pic of a converted Sterling semi. I see similar inspiration to the Huntsman.