Higher quality allen wrench sets

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  • tyronejk
    Bunker Buster
    • Nov 2023
    • 372

    #61
    Originally posted by SignOfZeta

    People do the same thing with drill bits and taps. It’s hilarious because if you spend real time in a shop you understand that these are commodity items, not at all made to last forever like ratchets and hammers and measuring devices…and if you’re careful enough to make them last you’re probably very slow on the job.
    True this.

    But I'd argue my multi-purpose ratchet-hammer-prybar from harbor freight is also a replaceable commodity item.

    My Mitutoyo calipers definitely are not.

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    • Siress
      S⌀.650" x 3.5g; F1979-17
      • Jul 2020
      • 1321
      • Central MA

      #62
      Originally posted by SignOfZeta

      People do the same thing with drill bits and taps. It’s hilarious because if you spend real time in a shop you understand that these are commodity items, not at all made to last forever like ratchets and hammers and measuring devices…and if you’re careful enough to make them last you’re probably very slow on the job.
      how many people in this thread have commented on having their hex set for many years, though? Sometimes people just want their stuff to look nice too. Nothing wrong with that. As for machinists, it's usually more about organization than looking nice or having protection. An incredible amount of time is wasted in a disorganized machine shop. Knowing exactly where to grab that .022" radius-ed key cutter could save anywhere from hours of searching to days of transit time plus the cost of a new one.
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      • SignOfZeta
        Space Commie
        • Jul 2020
        • 930
        • Ann Arbor

        #63
        Yes yes, of course. All opinions are equally valid and people can do whatever they want with their own money and nobody should ever judge anyone in any way about anything. Nothing is anything. That whole disclaimer…

        …the reason I made the comment I made was not to demonize people who own $4000 bicycles in order to make myself feel better.

        My point was that any company can engineer feature creep into basic tools and then market them at different tiers but if there are “tiers” to this stuff then certainly “working pro” is the top tier and working pros do not treat bits like they were bore gauges. They are consumables. The cosplay home gamer with the titanium torx bits is an evolutionary dead end. A real machine shop does have its bits organized…in large quantities. There’s a bin of drawers of bits organized by size with a dozen of everything because they are not Mont Blanc they are Bic. If you work at half speed to preserve a bit you’ll go out of business unless it’s like a mining bit or something.

        Similarly Allen keys, torx bits, etc wear out, which is why when sold with socket drives the bit can be replaced and the socket section retained. The tool that lasts forever is tool that doesn’t get much use.

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        • Chemical-x.....ahain
          Certified Post Whore
          • Mar 2023
          • 513

          #64
          I picked up a new set of Klein without the colored sleeves today, ill be using them and reporting back on it.

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          • flyweightnate
            MCB Member
            • Jul 2020
            • 1903
            • Dallas, TX

            #65
            I love how this thread has been going for 6 months solid.

            Probably longer than most of us keep a marker before seeing something shinier and trading.

            Good work, nerds!
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            • Drcemento
              Drcemento commented
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              😂😂 yeah if I’d know what I was starting. Get all excited when I log in and see a notification only to have it be another response to this thread! I do like my bonhus sets though. I do agree the color coding between metric and standard should be different. I’ve had that mix up a couple times now
          • Tarsun2
            Certified Post Whore
            • Jul 2020
            • 1026

            #66
            (years ago) I picked up a Wera bit driver and a bunch of bits along with a screwdriver set though the hospital i work for. I dont think i can go back....
            The way the tips hold the bit would make you think it was magnetic. Even maintenance had to check them out after seeing them. The guy started poking and prodding the screw thinking that there was at least some magnetism.
            lord knows ive used and made do with cheap tools and drivers. Along the years ive used decent stuff, basic stuff, and cheap stuff. Now i have the set i always wanted and theres no way im going back. This is for work though, at home i use harborfreight tools (and not even the icon series).

            As ive gotten older, i started using tools only for their designed purpose. If i need to try something, ill get a pry bar (not a flat head screwdriver). If i need to punch something, ill get my punch set (not my phillips head screw driver). If i need to hammer something, im getting my hammer and not just using the biggest socket wrench i have.

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            • flyweightnate
              MCB Member
              • Jul 2020
              • 1903
              • Dallas, TX

              #67
              Ok, one MAJOR gripe with all of these. (That I've seen so far.)

              I bought a cheap set of color-coded allen wrenches, metric and US. The 3mm metric is the same color as the 1/8". The 5mm is the same color as the 3/16". The 6mm is the same color as the 1/4". WHY?!

              Does nobody think that I might have something on my bench that uses both metric and inch fasteners?

              So I looked at Wera.

              Same thing!

              Also, 7/64 (and less important, 9/64) seems to be a size European manufacturers skip, even though my cheap Amazon Basics wrenches have it. And of course, my Bondhus.

              Spend enough time looking at anything, and you become a connoisseur.
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              • flyweightnate
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                (My solution... metric has paint marker stripes now.)
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