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    Spyder red O-ring source

    I’ve got a Spyder TL on its way to me from an eBay auction. If I remember correctly they have a red O-ring on the hammer and a white O-ring on one side of the valve. Where do I source those O-rings, and what size do I need?
    Last edited by The Great Equalizer; 02-15-2023, 01:29 PM.

    #2
    The red ones are tricky to come by. I bought a bunch of HNBR o-rings online that worked well enough for the hammer, I don't remember off of the top of my head what size, but I'm sure one of the Spyder guys will chime in.

    I believe the valve just uses standard tank o-rings
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      #3
      Didn't they just do that to make it easier to identify which way the valve was supposed to go marker? I've had a couple Spyders and replaced the o-rings using a big kit, but don't remember the specific size. I just matched it to one I and it seemed to work without issue.
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        #4
        This looks interesting...
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        OSK™ O-Ring Kit for Kingman Spyder Universal Color-Select Kit Includes:
        • 5pc -009 Tan
        • 10pc -010 Purple
        • 10pc -011 Pink
        • 5pc -012 Green
        • 10pc -014 Blue
        • 25pc -015 Red
        • 5pc -016 White
        • 5pc -017 Orange
        • 5pc -018 Yellow
        • 5pc -019 Gray

        These guys have a similar kit, but in a baggie
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        • The Great Equalizer
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          I was looking at those the other day. I've got a big kit of plain black o-rings, but I'll pick up one of these when I deplete it. I still don't know what the original red o-rings in a spyder are, but advice in this forum suggests they were junk anyway. I'll probably go with urethane

        #5
        Many of the o-rings in most Spyders are just 015 o-rings. The valve uses a urethane 015 on the front, and a buna 015 in the rear. No real reason to use urethane on the valve, so just use 70 duro buna front and rear. The striker (hammer) is a 90 duro urethane 015 o-ring, which is basically a tank o-ring. Unless it's a fatty striker, then it's 016. You do want to use a 90 duro urethane o-ring on the striker as it has better resistance to abrasion and less friction.
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          #6
          I have a red o ring coming in the mail. I'll let you know the size when it comes in. A 015 tank oring fit on the striker perfectly, a 016 oring was to big.
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          • William the Third

            William the Third

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            Yeah, fatty strikers, which are what used 016 o-rings, were mostly phased out by the early 2000s.

          #7
          They are slightly over sized from Kingman - 14.28 mm for example.

          I had some luck with Flasc Sniper O rings.

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          #8
          Spyder hammer o-rings are definitely not 90 duro. They are, at most, 70, if not even lower.

          Azodin striker o-rings are identical to spyder hammer o-rings, they're pretty easy to source.

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          • William the Third

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            I'm not so sure, but we do have some of the later run (they changed from red to brown in color) of the offical Kingman ORG001 o-rings at the field. If I remember I'll check one of them. The definitely are urethane, which does start to soften over time, so it's possible they started out harder. I know on the many Spyders I've worked on over the years, the original striker o-rings have softened up enough that many are just basically goo.

          • William the Third

            William the Third

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            So we actually sold out of the o-rings. Talking with a friend/fellow tech at the field, he agreed that they do (well, did) feel harder than a 70 duro o-ring. Which isn't very scientific, so nothing really answered. I still stand by using 90 duro urethane 015 o-rings, as I've had good luck with them over the years. That's my anecdote, and I'm sticking to it.

          • Toestr

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            Hehe nercopost time. The manual that came with my old Spyder (which I believe I sold to you @William the Third) listed the hammer oring as 80D.

          #9
          Originally posted by Magmoormaster View Post
          Spyder hammer o-rings are definitely not 90 duro. They are, at most, 70, if not even lower.

          Azodin striker o-rings are identical to spyder hammer o-rings, they're pretty easy to source.



          Where can one order Azodin Hammer o rings?

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            #10
            Originally posted by William the Third View Post
            I've had good luck with these o-rings on slim striker Spyders. They also just happen to be red.
            Thank you. Is there a good source for loose O-Rings? Some place with a good selection of different sizes and materials?

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