Updating Pre-2k Cocker Internals

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  • Cdn_Cuda
    You can finish projects?!
    • Jul 2020
    • 4525
    • Vancouver, BC

    #1

    Updating Pre-2k Cocker Internals

    I’ve got an early 90s cocker with more Sheridan internals than standard cocker internals. Is it worth convert to standard?

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  • Jonnydread
    Wild Card
    • Jul 2020
    • 4388
    • Lil Rhody

    #2
    No idea, but curious
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    • Cdn_Cuda
      You can finish projects?!
      • Jul 2020
      • 4525
      • Vancouver, BC

      #3
      I think the hammer becomes the issue. 2 out of 3 of my pre-2k cockers aren’t drilled for adjusting the hammer lug. The valve looks interchangeable regardless but not sure how the springs will work as the main string is super stiff in comparison to a standard cocker one.
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      • OpusX
        Still pumpin'
        • Jul 2020
        • 1448
        • KCMO

        #4
        I mean wow you just dont see many still sprung up like that.

        Worth it? Well if you wany ease of timing (aka top lug hole) and common springs for HPA yeah its worth it. If you just want to run CO2 leave it.
        Velcor will save us...

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        • Cdn_Cuda
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          I only run HPA these days although I have a few co2 bottles kicking around.
      • Jordan
        I. Am. Canadian. 🇨🇦
        • Jul 2020
        • 3476
        • Southern Ontario, Canada

        #5
        Short answer, yes. Long answer, depends on your goals.

        And God turned to Gabriel and said: “I shall create a land called Canada of outstanding natural beauty, with majestic mountains soaring with eagles, sparkling lakes abundant with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, and rivers stocked with salmon. I shall make the land rich in oil so the inhabitants prosper and call them Canadians, and they shall be praised as the friendliest of all people.”

        “But Lord,” asked Gabriel, “Is this not too generous to these Canadians?”

        And God replied, “Just wait and see the neighbors I shall inflict upon them."

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        • Cdn_Cuda
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          No set goals. Overrun by cockers/snipers at the moment. Going to be setting some free. Might keep one and build a sleeper out of it.
      • Walker
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 1530
        • WA State

        #6
        If you are going to shoot them, upgrade the internals. It's easier to adjust spring rates than it is to clip coils.

        Originally posted by Cdn_Cuda
        2 out of 3 of my pre-2k cockers aren’t drilled for adjusting the hammer lug.
        This can be overcome by removing the lug from the hammer, flipping it over, and screwing it back into the hammer from the bottom. You have to take the frame off to adjust it, but you don't have to drill a hole in the top either.


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        • Cdn_Cuda
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          This is how it was set up when I disassembled it, with the lug flipped. I also have another hammer that has a side adjustment screw in a different body.
      • coyote
        MCB Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 962

        #7
        "I it worth it?"is a nebulous question.

        If you're "upgrading " what's the goal?

        As far as I'm concerned I need to like my trigger and my efficiency. Once I'm there I'm done. Buy some killer paint and go play.

        The way here though is tinker with it. There's something better; heavy hammer lighter springs. There is only one way with the rabbit hole...down.

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        • Cdn_Cuda
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          I’m well versed in cockers, but of the 2k variety. These were a great deal on local Craigslist and I pretty much have everything I need on hand, thankfully. I’ll build one to my liking and find new homes for the rest.
      • iamthelazerviking
        Make Paintballs 690 Again
        • Jul 2020
        • 2708
        • Staunton, VA

        #8
        I'm not a fan of dialers and old stuff like that. Getting a lug adjustment hole (if it needs it) and threaded for IVG is inexpensive and totally worth it.
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        • Myrkul
          2026 ICD Sponsored Team
          • Jul 2020
          • 906
          • Jaegers

          #9
          Couple years ago I picked up a 96 in a pile of parts off Facebook for cheap that had almost identical internals to those. I updated the valve spring, the hammer, the hammer spring, and threw a dialer in. Honestly it's one of my best shooting mechs now. Wasn't really that expensive either.

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          • Alexndl
            MCB member
            • Jul 2020
            • 3508
            • Montreal, Qc, Canada

            #10
            Any idea on the date they where manufactured?
            whats the serial?

            I have a '92 Sniper II California and since its in really good shape I planned not to mess with the body to keep is as original as possible and just run it on CO2 or HPA eith a palmer female stab on the bottle (to keep the og look).

            Let me check I should have spare a threadless adjuster if you want to use standard hammer spring and hammer and use a stainless setscrew screwed from the bottom for the sear lug.
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            • Cdn_Cuda
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              Two are about ‘95 and one is about ‘92. One of the ‘96s is done up California Style. I have a male and female Stabilizer kicking around, the female being from my Hurricane.

              I think I might do the same and leave the ‘92 as original. One of the ‘96s has been modified (detent, lug adjustment hole) so it’ll be the better one to update.
          • Cdn_Cuda
            You can finish projects?!
            • Jul 2020
            • 4525
            • Vancouver, BC

            #11
            Turns out my ‘96 has a mixed bag of internals too.

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