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    #16
    Originally posted by SignOfZeta View Post
    He never said he wanted to play the game, just that he wanted to buy a paintball gun.

    If he is interested in the actual game I think he should play it enough to determine what he wants. He may think he wants a rifle now but long guns aren’t great for everything. Similarly, mags are a money pit that nerf your capability. The best guns for basic playing are space dildos and Phantoms. The best guns for buying a cubic yard of extra plastic are Tippman.

    I would ask the guy why he wants a rifle in the first place first. If it’s all cosplay then go that route, but he may just want a rifle because that’s what he’s used to with pellets or firearms. Maybe he played once with a JT ER2 and knows he wants something longer than that but perhaps not AR long.

    Or maybe it’s a bot. He’s still at one post.
    I am used to normal guns, but I'm also very interested in more scenario/milsim stuff. I want it to feel a little realistic. Rifles are just cooler, if a bit less functional. And I think I want a hopper, not a magazine; from all I've heard, magazines are quite finicky and better for First Strike. I will be renting some equipment from a local store to try, and my playing will probably just be with my brother around our property. The typical field matches with inflatable pylons look meh. Woodsball intrigues me.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Trbo323 View Post
      Hi again, I just realized you also made this thread over on AO. In case you see this one first, I have this for sale, tippmann x7 with custom paint and polished internals. If you want to talk about it shoot me a message here or there. I'll get it either way.

      Everything else I talked about on AO pretty much everyone else here already said

      Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk
      Thanks! Will keep it in mind.

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        #18
        If you aren't afraid to take things apart, I would actually recommend a Tippmann pro-carbine over everything else listed here.

        I'd avoid the 68 carbine, the feednecks are problematic on the 68s. You can usually find a pro-carbine for about $75. They have a very military rifle feel to them, but also aren't as bulky as most of the other options suggested, so you get the military rifle feel and look, but don't have to sacrifice usability. They shoot MUCH better then modern tippmanns do, I suspect it's because the bodies are machined aluminum and not the casted crap Tippmann started doing with the 98s and later.

        The only concern would be they are OLD at this point. So at a minimum you'll have to replace the detent, maybe a seal or two.

        ​​​​​​They are incredibly well built and absolutely work horses. The wear parts like detents, springs and cup seals are all interchangable with modern tippmanns so parts are both easily available and cheap. You can easily put millions of rounds through them, chuck it in a closet, let it sit for 15 years, and then pull it out and have it still shoot great after just swapping the detent.Tippmann Pro-carbines shoot great on Co2 or HPA, just be sure the tank has a high output regulator on it (800 psi or higher)

        Just let me know if you do end up purchasing one, I have a a few extra seals and detents I'd gladly send you for free. I rebuilt a few recently and frankly these things are so damn reliable I am not expecting to have to rebuild them again until 2045.


        As others have mentioned, stocks and paintball masks really don't mix well, I would just get a butt plate for a small tank. The old 9oz Co2 butt plates fit on the smaller 13 ci HPA tanks. If you HAVE to have a stock, they can still be found for the pro-carbine. At least, APP still has them listed as available on their website.

        ​​http://www.allenpaintball.com/retailframeset.html

        Here is a picture of my pro-carbine.
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        Last edited by Myrkul; Yesterday, 08:26 PM.

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          #19
          Originally posted by jackadven View Post

          I am used to normal guns, but I'm also very interested in more scenario/milsim stuff. I want it to feel a little realistic. Rifles are just cooler, if a bit less functional. And I think I want a hopper, not a magazine; from all I've heard, magazines are quite finicky and better for First Strike. I will be renting some equipment from a local store to try, and my playing will probably just be with my brother around our property. The typical field matches with inflatable pylons look meh. Woodsball intrigues me.
          If you like ARs , you could pick up a used Tippmann TMC for a decent price. They're all over the place on the used market.

          Make sure they still have the Hopper Adapter, and the False Mag included in the sale ( the false mag moves the ball retainer detent to a new spot when you run this gun in hopper mode ).

          Grab a paintball vest, with a molle tank pouch on the back of the vest, and pick up a remote line kit . You could instead run a tank off bottom grip , but it looks weird on an AR. Another option is the TMC has a tank in stock adapter kit available, see pics below. On the TMC it does make the stock extra long in length though.

          For a loader, pick up a JT Revolution (Revvy ) electronic loader (or a used original Viewloader Revvy). They're light, cheap , and all you need. Avoid gravity fed loaders, save yourself a headache with feeding issues, and barrel breaks, and just pick up the JT or VL Revvy,

          You will find out pretty quickly though, that the lowers of any paintball mask ( even the ones with flex bottoms) are going press against the stock and feel uncomfortable. Which means in a paintball game, you won't be holding the paintball gun like you would at a target range with a real firearm.

          You'll likely position up like these guys

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          Hope this helps

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