Is building an autococker worth it

[Psycho91]

So I've always wanted to piece an autococker together for shits and giggles, but is it worth it, nothing fancy or expensive just to kinda say I built it kinda thing and of course I guess I do get to choose my own prts instead of a fully built one that I may change stuff on anayway, I have no clue what bodies or frames go for though I know that's gonna be the pricey parts

[Cdn_Cuda]

Yes, it’s a good experience building your own cocker. If you’re going for all brand new and modern stuff it’s going to be pricy, but you can build a used cocker buying second hand parts for a good deal. Most parts are rebuildable and function well. Places like Autocockerparts.com have a great selection of parts as well. You can get lots of help if you run into any issues as well, but the are a lot of great YouTube videos on how to set up a cocker nicely.

You can get pre-2k and early 2k bodies and frames for pretty good prices and they turn into pretty nice shooters. Jordan is selling some classic cockers bits and pieces right now at pretty good prices. Might be a good place to start.

[Magmoormaster]

You can definitely get a good value out of building a cocker, especially if you are smart with the parts you buy. You probably won't beat the cost/value of just getting a stock 2k-2k4 wgp, but obviously you'll have something much more unique.

There's a lot of value outside of the big names. ANS pneumatics are really good for the price, though I would swap out the ram for a WGP STO ram. The stock WGP valve from 2k and on is a really good value for the money. And as for bodies, you can find some pretty affordable stuff as long as you're ok with something that's not flashy. I'd highly recommend AIM bodies; IMO they look good, they're well-built, and they have angel threaded feednecks. The more basic WGP bodies are usually pretty cheap too.

The trigger frame is usually the most expensive part of the gun, especially if you want a slider. You can usually find Benchmark double sliders for a lot less than singles, though they have some downsides. When I build cockers, I prioritize the frame over everything else. It's the single most important component of the gun. A good frame makes a much bigger difference than, say, a good 3way. As long as you have a good frame, you can go cheap on everything else and it won't really matter. Especially if, like I said, you're smart with what you get.

[Jonnydread]

Psycho91 I think those were called the Crow bodies? Or Eagle? Something Avian

[glaman5266]

Jonnydread Both had wavy milling, but the Eagle is the one where it comes up off the top of the body in the back.

[Brokeass_baller]

I had an AIM Swift body back when they were all over ebay for cheap. Looked great, but the barrel threads were wonky. Out of all of my barrels, only one fit. The rest would bind about halfway in. So if you pick one up, be mindful of that.

Also, I don't think they're so cheap anymore, and definitely not as freely available. I don't think I've seen anything from AIM in quite a while.

[Chuck E Ducky]

You can get markers pre built a lot cheaper than it cost to build one.

[DocsMachine]

Are you MAD?!? Building your own Autococker?!?

That's... that's like, making your own sandwich, or driving your own car! What next, choosing your own TV show to watch? Picking out your own clothes?!?

That way lies madness, my friend. Take a step back from the brink, and remember that perfectly serviceable markers can be had straight out of the bubble pack at your nearest Wal-Mart. No muss, no fuss, no worries about pesky things like learning how to "time" it, or concerns over silly things like reliability, accuracy and ergonomics.



Doc.

[Walker]

Basicly, about $265 or so. Cost goes up if you want to get fancy. But you can always spread it out as the parts you want come up used.

Find a body with matching front and back blocks, find the frame you want, then add in bits and pieces to get where you want to be.



Pre2k body, $55 shipped
https://www.ebay.com/itm/256057537637

Complete front block, $50
https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/b...e-2k-pmi-stock

Timing, cocking, and pump rods, $20
https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/b...e-2k-pmi-stock

Back block, $15
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295657175735

AKA Hammer, spring, IVG (pre2k), $40
https://www.ebay.com/itm/15549636985

Valve and spring, $25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/256042151772

Frame, $50
https://www.ebay.com/itm/32562759561

Valve Jam nut, $4.50
https://akapaintball.com/index.php?p...ococker-or-vlm

Valve retainer screw, $1.75
https://akapaintball.com/index.php?p...cker-stainless

[Walker]

You can always pick up a cheap cocker, that has the basics that you need, and then replace the parts you don't want, with those that you do.

By the time you are finished you will know the gun inside, and out.

99 STO Minicocker, bought it like this (which gave me a lot of the parts I wanted):

Ended like this:


98 Evolution, started like this:

Ended like this:

[CrowsFeast]

I find it entertaining that in one case you added a drop and in the other you removed the drop.

[Walker]

I'm glad I could entertain you.... I bought it with the Gladiator reg and the drop, which would not have been around when the Evo was originally sold. I then added an ergo reg, and no drop since I didn't have one that matched properly. I also replaced the frame with the cut trigger guard, with an intact one, added the correct beavertail, and was lucky enough to find an Evo shroud. In addition to that, I replaced the pneumatics with ones from the correct time frame. Along with that I used the correct valve, cocking rod, and SP AA barrel. I now have a 98 Belsales Evolution Autococker.

[BigRed]

Definitely come to the wrong place if you want somebody here to tell you not to bother!

From just the fun in assembly and tinkering you'll get it's totally worth it. The cautionary tale here is it could most likely lead you down the path of doing it over and over. With the possibility of each build being more expensive each time!

[Walker]

Is it worth it? For me; Yes... I have several cockers that are not cookie cutter.

[Twisted G]

Could do what I did. Buy a cocker already built with most of the parts you already like and just replace the ones that you don't or need replacing. There, now its your "custom build" cocker .

[Brokeass_baller]

YEEEEEEAAAAHHHH BOOOOOYYYYY!

I've pretty much built every Autococker I've ever owned. My current "nice" build is probably my most favorite ever. Simple 2003 WGP body, but really nice everything else. Originally purchased stock from Marcos1211. Added ShockTech hammer and RAT valve, SLPS spring kit from one of our own (I'm sorry, I can't remember who at the moment), ST Bomb 3-way, ID ram, Palmer Rock LPR, some random, but fine shooting bolt from eBay (it's venturi, but I got a 15fps increase over the stock bolt), and finally, a Dye/FreeFlow collaboration UL slider; which is pure secks and I love it. Feedneck mod by Andy at Nummech, before he went silent. I totaled under $600 for an absolute dream of a shooter. If you can time an Autococker, and you have a valve tool, then you can build an Autococker.

It is the way.

[Meleager7]

Apologies for how pedantic this next comment is, but technically the only ones building autocockers are the likes of DocsMachine , Inception Designs, and MozakMachine, etc, etc . The rest of us are just assembling parts!

[Psycho91]

This is true lol

[Cdn_Cuda]

We build the same way one builds Lego.

[jokers]

Hey I assemble my autocockers like i assemble my computers, I am still a BUILDER and mama says I am special!

[DocsMachine]

Quick tip when posting eBay links: You can delete everything after the question mark. All of that gobbledeygook is just internal site tracking and whatnot. So this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/25605753763...temCondition=4

Becomes this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256057537637

Doc.

[Walker]

Thanks Doc..... That makes it cleaner...

[latches109]

Apologies for how pedantic this next comment is, but technically the only ones building autocockers are the likes of DocsMachine , Inception Designs, and MozakMachine, etc, etc . The rest of us are just assembling parts!

A C T U A L L Y build is correct.

build
verb
1.
construct (something) by putting parts or material together.

[Meleager7]

well played, Sir, well played!!

[Erase]

As i was saying, build an autococker. Im still not exactly sure what im doing, how the marker functions to a science. Its been one of those journeys in life where the people stay with you. Everybodys response and builds with you asking this question has been awesome to see, go for it im hyped for you.