I'm in Pfizer's COVID vaccine trial, ask me anything.

[Diomedes]

You know, out of politeness, respect, and basic decency, I don’t go sticking my nose in the gun thread in the B&G starting fights about how the 2nd amendment was a mistake and ought to be repealed. Too much to expect that courtesy in the vaccine thread, I guess…

[russc]

Look up how Polio and Smallpox vaccines were administered...we have been been playing with kid gloves in comparison. As far as personal risk goes, that kind of flies out the window when it is a transmissible public health issue. It's like smokers being pissed about being accountable for second hand smoke.

[Diomedes]

Look if you want to can walk through the phylogenetic data and I can explain exactly how we know it came from bats. Viral evolution and phylogenetics is what I did in grad school. And if anyone wants to latch onto the specific codons some people erroneously claim are the smoking gun for a lab release, I have you covered on that one, too - viral codon bias is one of my very specific specialties. I would *love* to go through all those day point by point.

And I can’t believe people are still claiming you need to be symptomatic to transmit this thing. What’s even the point of disputing something that’s both obvious and trivial? Just being contrarian for its own sake.

[Jordan]

Diomedes, I was just addressing the argument of "J&J recalled sunscreen therefore their vaccine must be garbage".

I'm done casting pearls, though.

[Axel]

I won't attempt to censor misinformation for several reasons, but suffice to say that if we were to try, a mod could pretty much just go through the thread deleting every post from three or four specific members. I'm super disappointed with you guys, frankly.

Now that the anti-vaxxers have had their say, I'm asking you kindly as a personal favor (not as a mod, yet) to clear off. Obviously no one is convincing anyone else to change their minds.

Oh, and, as a moderator, reminder--no politics on MCB

[Diomedes]

Edited with source.

[lhamilton1807]

Diomedes because it made a vaccine and people are concerned it may not have been vetted/tested well before emergency authorization. It’s a reasonable concern. I think there’s still plenty of reason to not be overly worried about this one - vaccines aren’t sunscreen, and all of the scrutiny has brought a microscope to any small issue. The J&J COVID vaccine has had a couple stops because of health concerns. But they’ve been caught and analyzed out of caution. That’s the system working as it should. If you’re concerned about this one in particular, you have other options, both of which work quite well.

[lhamilton1807]

Where did that data come from? It looks like a super positive correlation, but it’s an image that was posted to Twitter. Just looking to ensure the sources are solid.

[lhamilton1807]

Moderna launching its first drug is akin to Tesla launching electric cars. Musk is a savvy businessman with experience. Moderna is a new drug company with experienced business minds and a lot of deep experience. Here’s their leadership team. Hardly a bunch of college grads. They had a decade to work on mRNA technology and we’re able to kick out a viable product because they had done their homework. Doesn’t seem too far fetched to me.

https://www.modernatx.com/about-us/e...tee-leadership

[Diomedes]

More data. Making the obvious more obvious every day.

From here. Data from UK public health agency.

[Diomedes]

Why are we talking about J&J?

[Diomedes]

No reasoning with some people. Thank you to everyone who's done the responsible thing and who is contributing constructively.

[woouulf]

I forgot to mention the "Vax for the win" program here in California funded with Tax payer monies..

Vax for the Win - Coronavirus COVID-19 Response (ca.gov)

[sniper97]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/20/if-a...e-hearing.html

WHO says probably came from a lab in China that Fauci over sees...so much for the bat trf. China will not release data to verify. Senate has removed funding and House is working on it.

I had covid, the end of July 2020, started feeling like a cold was coming on on Sunday, work in an office with 10 people...and no one in the office got it. I was in the office the full 2 weeks before getting covid. My family got it 4 to 5 days after I started show symptoms.

Also, Fauci has publicly said that covid might never go away, the Spanish Flu went away. Facts not fear.

[lew]

Politically, well lets say that I believe that this pandemic is grossly exaggerated , not that it does not exist I'm sure it does, but that it is being used for political gain and control.

First, good luck with the crap you're going through. Second, there's no "belief" necessary: the virus has only ever been a backdrop to a swindle. These "variants" will keep on being touted as long as the politicos can milk this farce for all it's worth and as long as folks keep listening to them.

Get vaccinated or don't. Make your own choice and don't force your selection upon others. This is not the end of the world or anything even remotely close so, for those who are, stop acting like it is.