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    I got one just because I could. In case anyone is wondering, this will work in a Rex R3 :dodgy:

    I'd assume it'll work in other old school fasor guns as well.

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      I somehow mangled a spring, probably when installing a cap while the valve body was still inside the marker. Dye wanted almost $21 for it. I laughed then bought a bag of 10 for $7 shipped off Amazon.

      I’m all about supporting paintball companies but that’s a bit much.

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      Anyone know when these will be back in stock?

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      • tyronejk
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        Where are they out of stock? At the very least, they're available directly from Dye.

      So far, I've tested the valve in a Rex Type R and a DP Fusion F7, along with the Rex R3. They all functioned with the valve installed but I can't speak on any performance difference, just wanted to see if it would work. Only issue I ran into was set screw length and diameter being different gun to gun. Decided to use without the "bumper" O-ring, so the return spring on fasor guns fit into that recessed area and not on the bumper.

      My Dragun T1 and Diablo "Wrath" aren't working at the moment or else I'd test it in them as well. Don't think it would work in any of the other guns I have.

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      • Jlp6
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        That’s interesting that you were able to get it into your fusion F7. I have a fusion elite and I could not get it in. I think there’s a lip I’m running into, but I wanted to try this out as well.

      So, I got this for my empire sniper and wow it's great.
      now I'm wondering what hammer you cats are using. I'm thinking a lighter one is better. Smoother shot? I have ID hammer and the lightest spring from ID at the moment. Recommendations?

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        Originally posted by Otnasir View Post
        So, I got this for my empire sniper and wow it's great.
        now I'm wondering what hammer you cats are using. I'm thinking a lighter one is better. Smoother shot? I have ID hammer and the lightest spring from ID at the moment. Recommendations?
        The Jenny Craig hammer (some kind of polymer, probably delrin) from Angry Antle

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        • BrickHaus

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          Skullya5 was having the issue where to make velocity his ivg had to be BURIED to get the laz valve to work with the jenny craig, and spring. He had to swap back to the inception heavy hammer with the jenny craig spring to get it to work with the ivg in a reasonable place.

        • Jivesauce
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          Ah got ya, yeah I think I used a different spring than what came with the Jenny Craig hammer to dial in the velocity.

        • dkfactor

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          I had to use a stock autococker spring with my Jenny Craig hammer also. The spring that came with the hammer was way to soft.

        Originally posted by Frmrspec View Post

        The Jenny Craig hammer (some kind of polymer, probably delrin) from Angry Antle
        His site doesn't work. Looks like it may have been abandoned. Does anyone have one? Tried it with the dff20?

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          Originally posted by Otnasir View Post

          His site doesn't work. Looks like it may have been abandoned. Does anyone have one? Tried it with the dff20?
          hmmm... you can contact him through FB as well Jason Antle or his shop page. I'll shoot him a message and let him know his site is down. I have a couple currently, one with a Lazarus valve, and another with a morph valve

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            Originally posted by Frmrspec View Post

            hmmm... you can contact him through FB as well Jason Antle or his shop page. I'll shoot him a message and let him know his site is down. I have a couple currently, one with a Lazarus valve, and another with a morph valve
            Cool I'll message him as well. Ty

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              Hey I just saw on the dye site, they specifically say these won't work in WGP Bodies except for the trilogy.

              Why? I'm only assuming some of you guys already have these in WGP Bodies. I had never seen that before, anyone know what's up with it?

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                Because most wgp bodies are not 11/16 even the ones that are, may not be bored deep enough.

              Originally posted by Trbo323 View Post
              Hey I just saw on the dye site, they specifically say these won't work in WGP Bodies except for the trilogy.

              Why? I'm only assuming some of you guys already have these in WGP Bodies. I had never seen that before, anyone know what's up with it?

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              Oh come on, one of you guys has to have an answer on this. Or at a minimum has already installed one in a WGP body

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                Originally posted by Trbo323 View Post
                Oh come on, one of you guys has to have an answer on this. Or at a minimum has already installed one in a WGP body

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                You and that stoopid tapatalk app... super man commented on this, haha.

                It's because MOST wgp bodies are 9/16th bore. so the valve wokt work in em.
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                  Originally posted by Trbo323 View Post
                  Oh come on, one of you guys has to have an answer on this. Or at a minimum has already installed one in a WGP body

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                  "Because most wgp bodies are not 11/16 even the ones that are, may not be bored deep enough."

                  To add to that, I think Billy Wing talked about this in a video and (if I remember correctly) some WGP bodies are bored deep enough to use this valve but some aren't, so to cover their bases, they're just saying they're not compatible.

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                    Correct me if I'm wrong but all 2k+ are 11/16 right?

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                    • superman

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                      They are not. Standard wgp bodies are 9/16.

                    Originally posted by Trbo323 View Post
                    Correct me if I'm wrong but all 2k+ are 11/16 right?

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                    All 2k+ standard are 9/16. Trilogy bodies were 11/16

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