Nova Phantom Duckslide kits

[Riot]

Shortened the quote to remove a bunch of autococker specific detail, but i feel like this applies to this very specific situation.
Maybe they should have had someone that actually uses a phantom assemble and test it..... before going into full production.

There are multiples of us in the state.....Myself, grendel, Nish, Plus multiples that are local to me.

It certainly feels like they tricked guys into Beta testing this…
Hopefully, they do what they say and make it right both for those buyers and future versions.

[superman]

It certainly feels like they tricked guys into Beta testing this…
Hopefully, they do what they say and make it right both for those buyers and future versions.

I don't think that was their intention, but this certainly rings a similar bell to the cockers. Though a lot of those issues could be fixed during assembly. This not so much.

[$L!mBo]

Magageddon got a pretty crooked hole drilled in the insert with his

[Jsc5150]

JFC

[Cdn_Cuda]

Oooff.. back it goes for a refund?

[jetenginekyle]

Bet I could do better with my eyes closed.

[BLachance75]

A little comparison video you can watch to see the wobble on an actual Duckslide.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/QF77M4g211k

[redsquirrel]

Eyyy, that feed looks so slick on there

[BLachance75]

redsquirrel it does look good on there.

[BLachance75]

Hopefully this can help some of you that bought one of the Nova slides or Nova can use it to fix their mistake.



The slot on my slide is 13/16” wide. A CCI 1 piece feed will fit.

This is the barrel clearance of a CCI barrel in a Duckslide. The hole is a hair over 7/8”.

[$L!mBo]

Thank you!

[RuleOfSines]

Their previous incarnation WarMachine's ACI Turret knockoff was similarly rough IMO, that just stayed rough but I don't think it was nearly as popular as this one.

[Super Nova]

This has definitely been a let down. It does feel like the consumer is doing the beta testing and a lot of mistakes made that should have been caught before they were sold.

[stockclass48]

Man... after seeing the videos posted, I definitely have buyer's remorse :/ Hopefully the guys at NOVA are standup fellas and do right by replacing those slides with corrections.

[RAZRBAKK]

[MrKittyCatMeowFace]

Should of bought one of these instead guys.

[$L!mBo]

we should raid the JT bst pages on FB and spam these For sale.
rile up the Flextards

[Murph]

Love my dumpster duck

[Chuck E Ducky]

Dumpster Duck lol that’s a good one Murph!

[Jsc5150]

Holy crap guys these were milled in America

I was going easy on them bc I thought they got shafted by crappy overseas machining

[Chuck E Ducky]

I don’t think they were. I thought they were scanned and sent over seas to get manufactured.

[Jsc5150]

Horses mouth says made in south carolina

[latches109]

seriously? show me the PO

[flyweightnate]

Holy crap guys these were milled in America

I was going easy on them bc I thought they got shafted by crappy overseas machining

As much as it sucks, I think domestic quality is just as varied as the cheapest import. It's all about the person, the equipment, and the communication. And I've met some American manufacturers who tend to communicate through a glass bottle more often than not. One foundry I used, the owner was unreachable after lunch, or unintelligible if I reached him.

I'm happy to hear that Nova produced in the US. Both because I want to encourage US manufacturing, and because they'll likely have more recourse to fix issues easily. Good shops certainly cost a lot more here, though.

If anyone cares, my advice is always to have 2-3 domestic suppliers with overlapping but distinct capabilities, and a foreign broker. Get a prototype guy who loves the challenge but isn't tooled for volume, a production guy, and a backup for when one of the others is slammed. Then get a foreign shop for the high-touch, low impact parts that take forever but nobody notices, like a Spyder VASA with two big threads, machining on four sides, and no moving parts. Sometimes the cheap labor on the dumb stuff makes a fair wage on the important stuff viable, without the whole project going over budget.

Low volume production is tricky in that way. You really need to choose your battle, because you don't have time or volume to optimize and automate everything. At very least, though, the design intent has to be there. Words are cheap.

[Chuck E Ducky]

It would be fairly easy to fix the issues at hand on the V1. A Delrin bushing would do wonders for the slop. Or clearance the slide at the back to fit an ASP cocker body and use a Doc Bull Cocker freak barrel. I’m planning on using a different feed anyway my round one would fit that slide easily as is it’s much more low profile then the CCI one.

Hopefully, they can get it squared away and the spec right. I will buy one if they can get it right.

[$L!mBo]

just sold this. Made the buyer aware of all the issues.
Hes having me send it straight to BMC for a delrin barrel bushing.
will report back how it goes!

[superman]

I was more referring to trying to track down the v1 owners to send the v2’s.

[Riot]

Problems aside…. Looks pretty dope.

[XEMON]

Probably gonna want the V1 back, mill it and sell it back ...

[Magageddon]

Another thing I noticed on mine was the lack of finish work inside the slide where the barrel goes. The holes on the top of the site rail and the threaded holes holding the bottom pump portion of the slide together all have small burrs protruding into the slide ID. So if someone gets their slide and tries to fit a larger diameter barrel inside, be careful, it'll scratch the hell out of your barrel without sanding those burrs off first.

I'm fine with mill marks on parts, but burrs on a marketed drop in ready part isn't cool.

My confidence in them fixing the issues is low, I'm gonna try doing fixing the feed tube fitment issues myself on my mill and gonna try making a slip fit delrin sleeve for the slide to not be a chattery nightmare

The only plus side is the nova guys are receptive to the problems and I did reach out about my off center brass insert and they said they'd be sending me a replacement asap.

If I'm not mistaken the V2 will pretty much be the same thing as the V1, but with a wider cut out to accept cci feed tubes, supposedly no plans to make the ID hole smaller to eliminate the need of getting a custom spacer to take out the excessive pump slop on the kit.

[$L!mBo]

diy is always the best option with projects like this.
and yea, no plans to fix the overbore.
"it would be too expensive"

[superman]

When you do, make sure you put something between the back the back of the slide to spread them apart. It gets sketchy if you don't. just a heads up.

[$L!mBo]

chatter wasnt bad at all when i slotted 4 kits a couple years ago. but you could stick a dowel in there while you cut.