Nova Phantom Duckslide kits

[$L!mBo]

just checked and they widened the barrel hole for some reason. phantom barrels will have a pretty significant gap and probly be rattling around in there.
hot dog in a hall way.
my AA cocker barrel fits in there great but ASP roundhead bodies do not.

[Riot]

Appreciate the post with pictures, but please let us know if the rattling is confirmed. Thanks for the details!

[$L!mBo]

@Riot
heres a video just showing how much play there is without a body inside, ill put it together proper and send another.
will most likely not be as bad with a standard thickness grip frame to keep things aligned

https://youtube.com/shorts/7loQsdVbn...5X_XfjsWUVqOzV

[$L!mBo]

just getting better and better.
the slot on these is too small for cci metal feeds

[BLachance75]

People who missed out on getting them won the lottery. That looks like a steaming pile of chinese knock off shit.

[$L!mBo]

definitely not doing any favors for their already not so sparkling reputation

[Jsc5150]

Can we officially call them Peking Duckslides now?

I figured finish quality would be lacking once they popped up raw despite being “out for anno” at one point.

What are we thinking on fixes? I bet we could get a bushing 3d printed to fix the barrel slop pretty easy, but making room for the cci metal feed is gonna be a bitch comparatively

BTW this is exactly the type of piece you should 3d print and test before finalizing a design, no real excuse to have some of these mistakes. Still appreciate Nova making these because nobody does, but it’s a little piss in the punchbowl to recreate a high end product with obvious issues

[$L!mBo]

Peking Duck slides is golden

[Ecapnation]

Bro... You just won the internet today.

[XEMON]

Wow ... just wow ...

[Riot]

Moodog you were right, sir. I deleted my post.


That said, I got $100 on anyone looking to offload one. 😎

[BLachance75]

Can we officially call them Peking Duckslides now?

That is to classy for these based on the pictures

What are we thinking on fixes? I bet we could get a bushing 3d printed to fix the barrel slop pretty easy, but making room for the cci metal feed is gonna be a bitch comparatively

I had Kit mill my Duckslide to have the feed attach directly to the body. I'd think that he or any other airsmith should be able to make the slot wider and get rid of the divots milled into the front of the slot.

[superman]

I milled @grendels the same way.

[$L!mBo]

ok, so the Nova guys just called me and we talked for an hour on FB Messenger Audio.
The widened barrel hole is "so they can fit a variety of aftermarket barrels."
Me: Phantoms are not autocockers. There are a few other brands and sizes but the overwhelming majority of folks will want standard size.
Nova: " That would be too expensive. We are keeping the bigger size."
Me: The feedneck issues
Nova: Totally our fault, we will fix anyones slide if they need it widened.

[$L!mBo]

@BLachance75
Roundhead with cocker barrel works in my Duckslide, not in the Nova unit

[Ecapnation]

How would a smaller hole be more money? Unless...
I'm betting they are using the same extrusion I use to make my ducks.

[XEMON]

Heavy wall 1" or 3/4" pipe?

[Riot]

Reading everything here, and jokes aside (just this once), I think seeing how they handle the feedback and any issues that the bodies(?) may have is how ill make a determination.

Based on my previously positive experiences and their willingness to reply, I don’t want to write them off like they Metadyne’d us.

Looking forward to seeing some completed projects with these.

[$L!mBo]

so, there is a single goober on FB that is crying about not being able to use his with a hopper.
now they are telling him the new run will be cut for that.
im trying to convince them that 99% of folks do not want that.
lets see how it goes...

Riot, not great news.

Nova: "All nova slides are built to looser tolerances to smooth out the pump stroke and accommodate any variance in the size of the parts used underneath."

Me: No, all the bodies/valves/frames/barrels anybody will be using with these will be extremely close in size.
The original Duckslide was a great success partly due to its tight tolerances and the consistency of one phantom to the next.

so, I just put mine together with internals and everything and the play at the barrel is almost just as bad. and theres wobble down the whole length.
to them, excessive scratching and rattling around is a feature, not a flaw.

[Riot]

This is a bummer. I’ll be waiting for the video, but am prepared for disappointment. Thanks for doing the leg work for the rest of us, $L!mBo

[redsquirrel]

This goober in the thread here?

I bought mine knowing I have parts for 20 builds I haven't finished, but will one day. But I also plan on the duckslide being open class.

[$L!mBo]

redsquirrel maybe! apparently, theyve had 2 guys ask for that. i dont get it at all.
i think its folks who have never played stock class and think theyll be outgunned unless they have a hopper.

[$L!mBo]

Riot
pump rod, internals, feedtube, frame, ect all assembled
any contact point that could mitigate the rattle, ive taken into account

😬😬😬

https://youtube.com/shorts/0ZcWtXhii...tKRm3GISOn9qHE

[XEMON]

thanks for the video 👍

[fullofpaint]

I'm sorry but that is hilariously awful.

[Walker]

That there Duckslide has a Cattle Rattle!

[Riot]

Riot
pump rod, internals, feedtube, frame, ect all assembled
any contact point that could mitigate the rattle, ive taken into account

😬😬😬

https://youtube.com/shorts/0ZcWtXhii...tKRm3GISOn9qHE

Ouch.

[iamthelazerviking]

So they're already working on a v2, and if you bought the v1 you can just get it swapped for the V2.

[iamthelazerviking]

[superman]

I would say it is more frustration than it is hate.
Multiple people have offered advice, designs, critiques and solutions for some of the things that nova has designed and released. Many of those things were not implemented, but were clearly pointed out early in production. I know because i regularly talk to some of those people that offered advice. They want people to enjoy and shoot autocockers, not see them as a pain to work on because of changes that could have and or should have been made pre-production with a simple conversation.

Shortened the quote to remove a bunch of autococker specific detail, but i feel like this applies to this very specific situation.
Maybe they should have had someone that actually uses a phantom assemble and test it..... before going into full production.

There are multiples of us in the state.....Myself, grendel, Nish, Plus multiples that are local to me.