Dye DFF-20 Lazarus Valve

[Menso]

Did you ever get those numbers?

[Jordan]

ACParts had some listed in stock so I picked one up with an order.

Probably going in a Trilogy build, too.

[JeeperCreeper]

Thank you. I've just received a pile of Trilogy and was looking at this valve setup. I can't wait to collect all my parts and try it out!

[Shane-O]

Try a heavier hammer spring and sweet spot the reg again. My preferance is to never have the IVG screwed in that far. Or go back and sweet spot it with the current setup.

[maggot]

Awesome info, thanks! That's interesting about the IVG being screwed all the way in. Does FPR increase if you raise or lower the pressure on the CP reg? Haven't had a chance to install my laz valves yet.

[Psycho91]

Thanks for the info I'm currently building a trilogy with a laz valve but I'm going to try the Jenni kraig hammer from angry

[latches109]

Psycho91 it already exists the Spyder VS valve

[Murph]

So I have numbers.

Using a Trilogy autococker with an A1 delrin bolt, the stock hammer, an SLPS hammer spring with the IVG screwed all the way in and a CP Reg at 200 psi, using a .687 freak insert with some leftovers from season's past, I was able to get 5 full fills of a speedster loader out of a 68 ci tank at 4500 psi and was down to 1500 psi when I was out of paint. That's roughly half a case of paint, with room to breathe.

I also was able to drop the LPR pressure significantly, I was 1 and 1/2 turns out from finger tight on the stock LPR (I bought a banjo bolt from air soldier so I could unscrew the hose barb without having to remove the hose. Saved me a ton of time in tuning).

I think the resale value on trilogies is about to spike.

Sorry I didn't think to get video. I only had my phone on me, and it does not take pretty video.

[Psycho91]

It would be cool if they could make one for blow backs though

[flyweightnate]

Sentinels have a 3/4" bottom bore - only reason I had to make valves is because nothing else works in them.

[Brokeass_baller]

Lol. I COMPLETELY understand that. But you're not the first to suggest it. That's what I find funny.

[Psycho91]

Just a drunken thought while i was messing around lol, didn't think it would

[Brokeass_baller]

I'm not sure why anyone would think it would work in a blowback. It's an Autococker valve. There's no blowback outlet on the valve pin, or the valve face.

[Euphie]

pghp8ntballer Mostly, because I don't have one, but I did consider it. It is actually kinda expensive to buy them with an LPR, I don't know what happened to all of the Intimidator LPRs, I used to be able to find NiB Evil ones for $10. Same thing with Intimidator rams, all of the ram sleeves seemed kinda expensive. Intimidator front blocks and rams themselves seem very plentiful but ram sleeves and LPRs not as much. Right now I am using an Autococker ram, screwed into a block, that is then screwed into a brass tube and that tube is secured to the body, which seems a robust solution if nothing else. What I do have is an intimidator grip frame with single trigger and single trigger guard, so I will probably use that. Also I didn't know it at the time, but the intimidator parts would probably have to be modified too, because the Lazarus valve is really long.

Since my DIY brass ram sleeve sticks out the back a bit, I might go full retro and just make a brass plug for the front and tap it for 1/8" NPT on the front and the bottom, and run a minicocker ASA (which I think I have around here somewhere) and put the brass Clippard LPR on there and find a brass barrel and polish it all up lol, because that will be alot of brass

[pghp8ntballer]

For reference https://www.ebay.com/itm/255733473949