Dye DFF-20 Lazarus Valve

[pghp8ntballer]

Why don’t you just use an intimidator vertical adapter? The LPR screws in the front like a volumizer and the block has the port for the ram air line.

[Psycho91]

So from what iv read a laz valve won't work in a blow back unless it's a pump, was fiddling with my sentinal and had the thought of putting one in it cause it has a 11/16 bottom bore

[Euphie]

Myrkul I might end up making it into a spiny but the current goal is more of a spycal that is a ram in the top and bottom tube like an Excalibur, if it proves to be difficult then my plan B/C is to go spimmy or see if I can make a spring forward air return ram work as a mechanical spimmy. I have lots of rams and lots of Spyder bodies laying around to mess about with

[Euphie]

Euphie Other than a self-contained spring housing why would you want to use this valve on a blowback?

edit: if you are making pathways for the blowback that are larger than the stock balancing hole (path of least resistance) the air will escape out to the hammer defeating the purpose for this valves design - it will no longer be a balanced valve. I would suggest modifying a Spyder VS valve to have a self contained spring housing - the VS valve balancing is designed for the blowback use case.

Because I am putting a pneumatic ram in there, that is why I was trying to figure out if I could get it going at a low enough pressure to avoid an LPR in an earlier post because as it stands now I am gonna have a very ugly LPR drilled and tapped into the volumizer and a hose ran back to the ram.

[Myrkul]

Euphie You mean a spimmy?

https://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2149260

[flyweightnate]

Spump! Or Spocker. Or masochism.

[latches109]

I had to modify my front block to fit the valve in my Spyder body because it is very long, also it seems to need the pin punched out of the body or it won’t line up with the valve retention screw

Euphie Other than a self-contained spring housing why would you want to use this valve on a blowback?

edit: if you are making pathways for the blowback that are larger than the stock balancing hole (path of least resistance) the air will escape out to the hammer defeating the purpose for this valves design - it will no longer be a balanced valve. I would suggest modifying a Spyder VS valve to have a self contained spring housing - the VS valve balancing is designed for the blowback use case.

[Euphie]

Total heathen thought here, don't cocker valves work in Spyder pumps?

I had to modify my front block to fit the valve in my Spyder body because it is very long, also it seems to need the pin punched out of the body or it won’t line up with the valve retention screw

[Impactfour]

Total heathen thought here, don't cocker valves work in Spyder pumps?

[Myrkul]

I would love to throw one of these in my bushy or defiant or both. Keep us posted.

[steed]

What are the benefits of this valve?

Same thing as LP has always done for cockers, lowers the force needed to open the valve so you need a lighter hammer spring which reduces the LPR which also reduces the pressure on the bolt so it's even gentler on paint and reduces the chances of chopping. That's really always been the big goal, getting as low pressure as possible. It's one reason tuned cockers are usually very quiet.

[Euphie]

I had to do modifications to fit it in a Spyder body, but now that it is in all I need is to finish the ram and I will have something very similar to a Bushmaster

[Roger7pball]

Will there be another run, or was it a limited release?

I saw somewhere a Dye rep saying the next batch will come around 12/22.

[Cdn_Cuda]

Never saw any comments that they were limited production.

[Jordan]

Will there be another run, or was it a limited release?