Dye DFF-20 Lazarus Valve

[imped4now]

The NDZ Rip was ahead of its time - neat packaging and clean flow around the head and to the bolt, but still unbalanced with no breech-sensing. The Lazarus is quite a leap forward.

[imped4now]

I can assure you they've been properly torture tested, but feel free to continue. As for optimizing efficiency, you'll want to likely reduce the hammer mass and/or main spring rate vs. what you're currently running. Since the valve open force is so much lighter, there's no need to slam a bunch of energy into the pin in order to open it. But additionally, since it's partially balanced, the closing force is less than with an unbalanced valve, even with the breech-sensing passage assisting the closing bias. So, the heavier the hammer and the spring, the longer it'll take to close.

[AndrewTheWookiee]

I've seen a few mentions in here, but just to reiterate, it's not a copy or evolution of the morph valve. It's essentially Lurker's control freak poppet for the Gen4 Timmys (which was released in 2012).

[Cdn_Cuda]

I'm hopping the light ID spring will work. I guess my next issue is whether my HPR can drop that low.

[iamthelazerviking]

Angry is now offering the Jenni Kraig hammer, a super light one to pair with this valve. His example was at 160 psi shooting in 280s. He mentioned using the lightest spring he could find. I'm sure the light spring from the Inception Designs spring kit would be a good option.

[superman]

I 3d print spring guides for trilogies to get rid of the stock spring. It does eat up some volume but still better than the stock spring.

[zinger565]

Ah man, now I kinda want to put one in my trilly pump...it's got a leaky valve anyways

[latches109]

It's nice having access to a new morph valve, which I like in trilogies to eliminate the Spyder spring.
This looks like a good copy. Should you go out and get one? I'll shoot it tomorrow and let you know.

Keep in mind, there is more maintenance with this valve design using 3 dynamic orings vs one hard cup seal. (morph and Lazarus)
The claim on increased consistency is a stretch, considering the addition of 2 more failure points and a soft cup seal. Lot of that is HPR dependent as well.
"Breach Sensing Technology" lol cheesy marketing. morph has Venturi breach sensing.

[Pumpytrilly1]

I want to try this. Kind of reminds me of a ndz rip valve

[paintballedbackin88]

Just saw a video posted by Jason Antle on FB and it shows him testing the valve in one of his custom bodies. Approx 160 psi. I just ordered one for my own trilogy, which is currently running a PPS low pressure 11/16 valve.

[Chuck E Ducky]

That exhaust port is massive.

[jetenginekyle]

Anyone got any shipping info for these yet? I order through Freeflow. Just wondering (impatiently) when I may get it. Valves are also back in stock at Freeflow.

I ordered from dye on Monday and fedex dropped it off a couple minutes ago

[MozakMachine]

Valves look great, I’ll be offering my new blank/milled bodies with an 11/16 option for these and other valves

[Cdn_Cuda]

Anyone got any shipping info for these yet? I order through Freeflow. Just wondering (impatiently) when I may get it. Valves are also back in stock at Freeflow.

[glaman5266]

You mean they haven’t been?
I haven’t seen a plain Sport model under $80 for a long time now. And I’ve seen plenty of those for over $100, which I refuse to pay despite wanting one. Comp & Pro models are over $200, which is already high.

EDIT: I guess I’m skeptical of how much those will go up. And I certainly don’t want to see them go any higher than they are now.